But in your praying dont forget those who are at the bottom of the iceberg who are actively involved in their secret sin of choice and will continue to do so as long as theyre not found out and as long as they ignore the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They ended up locked in dueling lawsuits, with the pastor accusing Calvary's leaders of skimming profits and the Smiths charging that he used his influence running the radio stations to pressure women into sex. 557 views, 6 likes, 2 loves, 0 comments, 7 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Calvary Chapel Tustin Women's Ministry: ARE YOU COMING? We are all vulnerable. This whole mess has really brought some things into question for me, a new believer Adultery is certainly throughout the 66 books BUT not within those called into ministry as far as I can find. This was the zenith of Jakes career. The buzz that started as an anonymous comment on calvarychapelabuse.com has been confirmed. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news.. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. Comments are back on at the CC Abuse blog. Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. No thanks. Apologies are step two. Andy, I saw no verses posted by you AND you have not shown where Jesus spoke of this 1,000 yr earthy reign. Now, tell me how you play around and allow yourself to be tempted. Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. I thought so. I wonder how this Bob Coy episode of Christian failure will end. His idea was a huge hit, one of the first in a wave that has become known as the Jesus movement. Bob chose to do that.. He left his youth Pastor to become Pastor. God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80920408899/what-were-reading, Lorenzo, Consider this http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80107711769/the-libertine. We are all vulnerable and weak!! Yes, you have every right in our Constitution to report this..but what is legal and allowed may not always be the right thing to do.. in the sake of mankind and compassion for Coys wife and children and given the emotions they are going through at this time, perhaps some delay in reporting it until the church publicly announced it mightve been best and in order, the way the local mainsream media did. BTW, you might want to be a bit more cautious with the word prognosis, or at least become more informed to the breadth of its meaning. Depression,anxiety and emotional paralysis can cloud your ability to make healthy decisions and achieve a happier life. "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. Time for restoration. Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? When my Bible says that the seven year tribulation will be a time unlike any other time in the history of man and that unless Jesus had come back when he does all life would be cut short, then anything else is garbage! He was discharged shortly after New Year's Eve, but was readmitted a few days later to Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in Whittier, California. I can just throw out stuff also. I am sure a church that size had plenty of people who did not attend last week as they likely miss from time to time. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. I am crystal clear on everything you have told me and havent told me anything I didnt already know. Why are you Christians so indignant and condemning, isnt it natural to want to be with many different women, arent we programmed that way as men. Diane Schuler, her daughter Erin, and her three nieces also died in the crash. Thats right, his own church leadership did the judging. He resigned. "Typically, how it goes in these cases is you have a violator in the church, but the leaders will have this notion that if he repents, he's forgiven, and then we don't have to talk about it any more," says Leander James, who specializes in church child abuse cases. Did he leave the country? His family is leaving. on and on ad nauseum ] The real power wont be shown by succumbing to any of these dangers. IMO , there is nothing less Christ like on this planet than fighting for control. I wonder if now these people are thinking of us. The reason for Satans binding is clear so that he might not deceive the nations any longer,. So, how much is Bob Coy worth at the age of 66 years old? God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. You may respond to the Gospel and be saved, sure. Andy & Barbara, I said earlier (and was alluding to these verses) in apocalyptic literature every time there is a mention of thrones, it is a heavenly scene and not an earthy scene. About half a year later, the victim visited the police department and said she had an "experience with God" and has found forgiveness for Coy. Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. The internet and increased availability of sexual content, both in the explosion of adult entertainment and media in general has really opened the door to men (and boys and women and girls) to be exposed to so much. By sheer volume in the epistles, doctrine is brought up more than moral issues. The church only loses if they go to the punishment and exposure message without hope of recovering a brother. no im not angry. Who assigned you the daunting task of picking up the pieces? - -, - : - , -, , . She works with children! I have looked this for years, and I think there are several groups that are maintaining biblical integrity and calling. It hardly makes their convictions garbage.. Or worse yet, intentionally sinning with the attitude of easy grace for themselves, but holding the congregation to a higher standard. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. They pop up on our husbands e-mail, Facebook, etc. On the issue of DC his wife- if you read her page on the church website she explains that she left ministry to raise her kids and be home for Bob. Please download this free book to help men you know establish Gospel-centered accountability that lasts: Coming Clean: Overcoming Lust Through Biblical Accountability. http://www.covenanteyes.com/accountability-partner-ebook/, I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct, Having read some of the comments posted, I am dissapointed at the lack of compassion and those with self-righteous attitudes. What do you disagree with Luther on, just for the sake of argument? He instructs and guides us into all truth, and seals us for the day of redemption. Lets see how many marriages this man has destroyed in his church. My only advice for you regarding any place that is demanding blind loyalty/obedience is this: run and find a place where you trust the pastor and yet also feel that you have the freedom for healthy disagreement. And CCFL did issue an article on their blog and they are allowing blog comments so thats much better than in the past with CC issues. a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? or are you just repeating here say? He has also been teaching for even longer that the blood of Jesus Christ has no power to save. This story broke yesterday morning online before I ever wrote a word. 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. Others who knew of this pastors sin and felt the Lords call to also speak up, had dead birds put in their mailboxes and were threatened in other ways as well. Our loyalty is to Jesus Christ. Hes completely out of Calvary Chapel and is seemingly content as a regular guy although he seems to have realigned his doctrine to something more unorthodox and writes about it often. Night all (everyone whos still up). {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. RiBo, A man posted yesterday on FB that something like 40% of pastors struggle with some sort of sexual sin. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. Instead the idolaters slay the messenger. I do just fine praying for myself. I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler. Bob isnt. Who Is Bob Coy's Wife? - Ourhairstyle Through that rehabilitation, I became a better man. I disagree with Smith on losing salvation (I dont believe you can lose salvation), on counting a generation from the re-establishment of Israel, on the resurrection body. This situation needs wisdom, prayer, and inordinately strong men/women to hold their course and see this thing through. You have brothers and sisters in the world that are not able to mention their faith without fear of loosing their freedom or life. Michael has his little posse of the usual suspects, always looking for a lynching, like circling vultures at the scent of a wounded sojourner, depart from me for I never knew you, you workers of iniquity! Are the words those of your ilk will ever hear unless you repent, you shall know them by their fruits, and your fruit stinks! I mentioned any fallen brother I dont care who it is, your Pharisaical attitude is what I condemn that emanates from your self righteous hypocritical stance that shows through once again as you try to put me in your box, sorry I dont dance your tune or fit into your little box! God is able to do that. I pray that he must show true repentance and fruit before he is ever allowed to preach from any pulpit, and I pray that process is not rushed along as we often have seen happen in the past with other fallen pastors. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. That was followed by more worship. We arent really transformed in a manner any different than Mormons or Atheists or others who make a decision to be more or less moral in our lives. He was a star everywhere he went..a total fool and idiot in my book. He resigned. My thought when I was there was Doesnt the first person feel ripped off? Smith even launched a music label and began fusing Evangelical faith with electric guitars and drum kits. If we find ourselves taking joy in the sins of others we need to take a serious self inventory as we arent what we imagine we are and in need of forgiveness ourselves. In my opinion, if he did this [to one victim], it's just a question of how many others are out there. Which is precisely why I asked for suggestions several, several times. Coy's life story is biblical in scope and obvious in moral lessons. I think I beat you to your passage and posting the Hebrew is a nice try for a save but to no avail. Someone else may have more info on this subject. So many people will be hurt by this. When he went back to CCFL by then many family members from another state arrived and had jobs waiting for them at CCFL. Matt. You wait your turn. He can't be put in a position of power ever again.". Who is his congregation? Not everyone should stay married for their reputation in a church. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. Youre just twisting Acts 2. Restoration is step three. So I would say there is a different parrot on this post and its the parrot that mimics a heretic named John Calvin! The Calvary Chapel movement is nothing but a put-on to confuse peoples minds and create stories that have NOTHING to do with Biblical truth. California officials considered this a "ship of Theseus" fraud, claiming that so many central elements were replaced, the cars ceased to be the same entity. Jimmy kind of got thrown under the bus, he did not get all of these gracious words for his infraction. Let them tear eachother apart like wolves. ), and the Christians will take over all the positions of government and usher in the return of Christ, and heres the kicker, all the prophecies have already taken place, 666 on the forehead or right hand is symbolic tooWow so much I missed because according to the preterist the prophecy of the Euphrates river drying up and a 200 million men army and the giants of the east being woken up and islands sinking into the ocean and 70 pound boulders falling from heaven, in a tribulation period never before experienced in the history of man, and all the plagues of revelation, all that has already taken place, yes folks back in 70 AD when Nero, who by the way was the Antichrist, sacked Jerusalem, gee I guess he had all the power of Satan, and the false prophet, well well have to spiritualize that one too. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? There are a lot of Calvary Chapelites out there that almost worship Bob more than Christ. It has been intense to say the least. 29 Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. No sin overtakes us, except what is common to man. I have just called the church and confirmed. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? So he led the people through the Port of New Orleans and up the Mississippi River to St Louis in what began the LCMS. My information says fired. I am glad to see the Board either making a deal to buy Coy out or maybe the Board had the power in the by-laws to deal with a moral failure like thisdunno, but do know that you cant really have a CC-style church that puts some much emphasis on their brand of transformation Gospel while pointing fingers at those outside the church for stuff like gay marriage etcand then have a guy in that CC pulpit that is addicted to p0rn and having relations with multiple women who are not his wife. I lost my job because of saying NO, but was made to look like I was a horrible employee. Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. My prayers are with Pastor Bob, Diane, and the kids. Calvin did not come up with any new doctrines, nor did he teach the mangled misrepresentations that you have presented. Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. MLD, nothing in your 708 says that the 1000 years of Revelation, are figurative. Though I am not a Calvinist you again caricature their views by your questions. Read under the heading Modern Times and get a partial list of who holds this position. Its commanded in Scripture to do so. People have gifts, given by God apt to speak is one of them. Here is what Acts 2 does to your literal 1,000 yrs. That is a bummer about Chet. He was forced to resign. Early life, education and early career. Moe-Thanks for clearing that up. I am telling them to let him recover his heart, name and honor. The church still claims about 20,000 members, and on a recent Wednesday night, thousands of them poured in for a service led by Pastor Sauder, Coy's replacement. Im very content with the ministry God has given me. Im still waiting! Coy Gibbs Death Cause: What Happened To Him At Final Racing? Check Did I also read that Coy did not write his sermons and that this is common knowledge? Read his book about the Kingdom. (1 Cor. Michael says: February 9, 2020 at 7:20 am. . It sure seemed to confuse many when he was with Greg and Chuck at the Harvest Crusade and was present at Chucks memorial. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. King David was called to build the temple of the lord much like a Pastor is called to build a church / congregation. Time for dinner. Because God blesses their marriages, they experience genuine love which is far more satisfying and pleasurable than a lifetime of dishonest and destructive one night stands and empty relationships. Too many people look at their pastor or sr. pastor, vs.the congregation being pointed to the Lord. Every man of God gets tempted by the three Gs.. No one is denying that grace, forgiveness, and redemption are available to him and all of us who are sinners by birth and by choicebut lets focus on the wounded before the wounder. According to a census of the denomination, in 2020, it had 1,700 churches. And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well! Just so you know 80% of the Church worldwide holds this position except in American Pop Evangelicalism. The less-er donors got a buffet lunch. LOL. By the way, the dwarfs are for the dwarfs. MLD this is interesting and the first ive heard of this. "When Pastor Bob left, people definitely left too because they wanted to follow him or because they were just hurt," says Healy, the longtime church member. Lorenzo #483. I am praying for healing and peace and for the hate to be put aside and the mercy and grace of God to be poured out on all. Thats why we have Jesus. Do you ever think about the emotional damage you cause these women or the families you break up? Larry Erickson, later the chief designer of the Mustang and Thunderbird for Ford Motor Co., worked with Coddington early on, and specifically credits the CadZZilla collaboration for jump-starting his career. Thats where she is from. MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. To critics such as Newnham, there's only one reason to fight for a ruling like that: to hide from churchgoers the amount of cash the church gave Coy to go away. There have been a large number of new posters (many anonymous) who arrived in the first couple days of the news. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. Read his account here and give me the answer: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-and-the-Blood-of-Martin-Luther-King.html. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. [10] Deal with that and then come talk to me. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vinces wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. There is just NO WAY a board would put an organization this big at risk unless they were guarding something more. Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. Since you have only been taught the CC line yes, Satan has been bound for the past 2,000 years. Someone earlier said that porn is a symptom. By my count, only 7 including myself have listed your names. What about their families? My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. #RealLove. So depressing. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. Daniel uses the 7s in its proper biblical sense to mean a completeness of time this is not a specific period of time. You have never read any of Luthers writings (I am sure at best you have read only out of context internet quotes) so a discussion about Luther would be unprofitable. On a Sunday evening in April 2014, thousands packed into Calvary Chapel's sanctuary, a cavernous space that looks more like a midsize city's convention center than a church. This moral failing must be big and bad or its disclosure is an attempt to try to avoid something worse. Can the congregation recover? Coy has also been dragged through legal battlefields since his resignation from the church. I suffered many years after leaving this church. well praying for you. I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. I am much more amil in my beliefs. I know I know you would never do such a thing. Its as if he could never do any wrong. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; AND THEY LIVED AND REIGNED WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS. God can bring restoration- please Lord, help the Coy family. Look at bob through the eyes of Jesusthen post your comments on how you see him.. Im glad Pastor Chuck was spared from this. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. What a disappointment especially as I know many who have thought well of him. and help keep the future of New Times, Use of this website constitutes acceptance of our. None are anointed in this age, none are special, none are transformed in a practical sense. The Gospel is forgiveness and reconciliation. It should take time and healing. We dont really know why God didnt send the Gospel message to most of humanity and we dont know why God doesnt make us sin no more when we are supposedly saved. Even though Bode needed surgery, he wasnt anxious about it. I havent seen anyone here gloating or rejoicing in his fall. Jesus Christ, the living Word, became flesh through His miraculous conception by the Holy Spirit and His virgin birth. "We are not led by a board of elders.". Im sure that there are many churches in the FtL area that, while not mega in size, would be a good fit for many of you in the work of the ministry. Also read the 2nd to last paragraph from June. Scripture tells me Bob C thought it, conceived, it and did it. So if you have a problem with that, take it up with God. Better perforate your Bibles if that is so. Id think the body of Christ would be the most transparent of all bloggers! What did the church do in the Middle Ages? Ushers passed tissue boxes down the rows as his followers wept. He is a human that, if I may point out, has transformed MANY MANY MANY lives over several years and has grown CCFL into an amazing place of worship. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. Dont over react to what you see here. Bob Coy did not address the congregation on Sunday. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing.. Having said that, I can still speak respectfully to you and not accuse you of a false Gospel and all the other loaded terms Ive read here. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life. It never is. And only because I am entering a different stage of grief which is anger Pastor Chinelly and Pastor Fidel Gomez were both unfaithful to their wives. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. Michael Can the post I sent last night at 11pm still be posted? No Im not CC? For one thing if you had accountability partners and people that youre answerable to like you claim, then you would not have this blog as a tool of Satan, accusing the brethren, you are just a discontented wannabe pastor who meets in a living room with 10 people, criticizing and begrudging the work of God because youre not part of it! Im just trying to figure out why Michaels on the take. You dont have any morals.your life is a lie. 2:10). I am not talking about positional but relational restoration. Now the Lordship salvation, works righteousness folks will claim if you dont sin less after you are saved, significantly lessthen your salvation didnt take. Contents show Robert J. Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. I knew/know many who know him and he has no skeletons. So my question is why was John Macarthur able to gain access to these most important crime scenes? Even though Jesus said that all of the OT was about him, you pre mil dispies say no Jesus, there are still outstanding promises to Israel you owe them. why do the most ardent Coy defenders have to use capital letters and too much punctuation? "We take every allegation of abuse seriously, and our prayers are with the Coy family as they pursue redemption and healing.". And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right. Michael, the thing is that MacArthur isnt here. I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. Megachurch Founder Bob Coy Accused of Molesting 4-Y-O, Sexually Abusing A man who cheats does so because he is a cheater and has no respect for his wife. I did the change the headline to removed so as not to get caught up in ridiculous minutia. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. Opinion: I've been on the field for two football tragedies. I hope When we objectify we act as gods. In this blog, I want to share with you my thoughts on how the Catholic faith affects our lives. There is blood on my sword. Unfortunately, his teaching was very shallow, and a tendency toward story-telling and stand-up comedy in favor of sound, Biblical doctrine was both offensive and disappointing to me asking themselves why they did not recognize the absence of authentic Christian character in the fallen mega-pastor. Praying for all involved and also praying for those casting stones and pointing fingers. To err is humanto forgive..divine. Pastor Bob has always reminded his congregation that they should look to Christand not to man. Police said they couldn't find enough evidence to press charges, but the staffer claimed the church forced him to resign for alerting the authorities. and someone from the OUTSIDE. What usually happens in these situations is that after the offense is noted and documented the person is given the option to leave voluntarily or be forced out. It is a struggle not to disrespect and dishonor her? Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. When I say I have no sympathy for the adulterer, I mean I dont but the excuses oh, he was tempted (the other womans fault) oh he is a celebrity (other people s fault for putting him up too hign) -oh, well his wife got fat and ugly you can go on and on. Just go to Benny Hinns website if you want that ? I feel bad for the wife and kids .BOB COY another Tiger Woodshey kids your father is that womanizer right..the media will have a field day. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. David Jeremiah was right. I love God and Jesus so much that is why I feel and pray the best for Bob Coy and his family. The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration.".

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